【Mirror Weekly Report-Karmapa violates precepts, accused of having girlfriend】
The 17th Karmapa has millions of believers around the world. Since his childhood, he has been regarded as a "god" and should abide by strict precepts. However, the journal received complaints from the believer H (pseudonym), noting that Karmapa had not only been in contact with her for five years but also had sex three times. According to the H, she would associate with the Karmapa because of the introduction of a Rinpoche who asked the H to maintain a "close relationship" with the Karmapa. Confirm what she said; providing relevant photos and WeChat records of her and Rinpoche; the most important thing is a recording of the conversation between H and Karmapa, which the professional laboratory confirmed. The person who recorded the dialogue was indeed the Karmapa.
The 36th Kagyu Monlam, one of the crucial events of Tibetan Buddhism, has just ended. Global believers are gathered in India and look forward to seeing the Kagyu leader, the 17th Karmapa ( Ogyen Trinley Dorje), and listening to teachings. However, from January 9th to the end of the Monlam, Karmapa never appeared and only gave a short speech via the internet.
Five years of association, breaking the precepts
In addition to being the leader of the Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism, the 17th Karmapa is also known as the religious leader of Tibetan Buddhism, with the most followers except the Dalai Lama. At 34, he has a high status in Tibetan Buddhism.
Karmapa's absence from the Kagyu Molnam has not reduced his followers' love and worship. He continuously promoted the doctrine of vegetarianism and observance of the precepts. He held a bhikkhuni monastic preaching meeting the previous year, inviting 20 nuns who have become nuns for more than 20 years to start from the most basic "Three Refuges and Five Precepts."
In the Buddhist doctrine, the three refuges and five precepts are the obligatory rules for monks. The five precepts include no killing, no stealing, no lying, no drinking, and no adultery. Among them, no adultery refers to the relationship between men and women. But it is hard to imagine that H accused the Karmapa of taking the lead in breaking the precept.
The journalist recently received information from a believer H (pseudonym) that Karmapa has not only been in contact with her for five years but also had sex three times. In addition to providing photos of herself and Karmapa in the hotel, the H also recorded the dialogue between them. The 11 paragraphs lasted for 18 minutes and 21 seconds, and the content was like a couple of conversations.
Nickname "Baby cow" Late Night Visit
For the sake of caution, this magazine sent these recordings with the two videos of the Karmapa’s speech to Taiwan’s believers via the Internet on April 6, 2018, in New York, and two public lectures at Ling Yen Mountain Temple in Canada on June 29, 2017, to the Pottery Voiceprint Identification Laboratory of American Company for voiceprint comparison.
The laboratory first used the "listening method" to confirm that the two accents, vocal habits, resonance points, and so on were the same. Then, after reviewing the software, the lab found that the files' fundamental frequencies and resonances of common words such as "self," "is," and "Taiwan" The peak patterns are almost the same, and the language characteristics are more the same. The recording file and the sample are 99.9% consistent, confirming the conclusion of the same person.
However, how could a religious leader have an emotional dispute with a Taiwanese woman? The time goes back to the morning of December 15, last year, the reporter met with H in the office of this magazine. In the office, H fiddled with long hair anxiously from time to time, and her handsome face appeared upset and uneasy. Open her mouth slowly and talk about the torture and pressure with the Karmapa for five years.
On the same day, the reporter heard the first recording of the conversation between H and Karmapa. H recorded the recording of H and Karmapa during a call on Skype on August 31, 2018. During the discussion, Karmapa's tone was intimate. The H called him "baby cow," and he kept saying that he hoped that the H would come to the United States or Canada to see him, and he would like to "face-to-face" with the H, and bluntly that the relationship between the two people "should be more communication."
H said that she had had three sexual relations with the Karmapa at that time. The first time was on September 13, 2013, at the Grand New Delhi hotel in India. At that time, global Buddhist leaders gathered in New Delhi to participate in the first "Founding Member Conference of the International Buddhist Union," which ended on the 12th. At midnight on the 13th, Karmapa went to H's room and knocked on the door. The two had sex for the first time. On the 14th, the H went to meet the Karmapa as a believer, and the two of them were taking pictures in the room of Karmapa as if the rain and cloud the night before had never happened.
Lingering three times, intimate conversation
The second time was at the Hyatt Hotel in New Delhi on March 5, 2015. The H was very impressed that when she looked out of her room, she could see the private apartment where Karmapa stayed. As long as the Karmapa was active on the balcony, the two of them could see each other from a distance. Karmapa also knocked on the door of H's room in the middle of the night. After lingering, the next day, she returned to a believer's identity and sent Karmapa to the United States with other disciples.
The third time was at the Sheraton Hotel in New Delhi in August of the same year. On the 21st, the H wore an all-white traditional costume and went to see the Karmapa. The two also took a photo. At midnight on the 22nd, the Karmapa entered the H's room again the next day; then, he flew to Germany for a teaching tour of Europe.
This magazine compares the public schedule of the Karmapa on the Internet. From September 9th to 12th, 2013, the Karmapa did participate in the conference in New Delhi. On March 10, 2015, the official website announced that the Karmapa began to teach Buddhism in the United States for two months; 2015 On August 23, he went to Germany to start the European teaching tour and the itinerary was consistent. 『However, this journal has evidence and cannot confirm that the two had had sex.』
What confuses H is that her relationship with the Karmapa is clearly beyond the master and disciples, but Karmapa is leaving her immediately. In this regard, H asked Karmapa many times: "Why did you choose me?" The Karmapa comforted H and asked her to change to a "softer tone." He also said that he knew what H was thinking.
Karmapa even blurted out in the dialogue: "Actually, let's talk about it; you just miss me." Then he told H like a secular couple, and the two of them were "a relationship between a sour, sweet, bitter, and spicy (ups and downs)" "If there is love, there is resentment." He also believes that the H just made trouble because of her feelings for Karmapa. The two whispered like lovers. Although the evidence shows no ordinary relationship between the teacher and the disciples, this journal does its best to verify it. 『The reporter can prove that at this stage, it is not possible to indicate the relationship between the two of them. 』Therefore list the dialogue for reference.
The following is the original translation of the intimate dialogue between Karmapa and H.
H: What is my relationship with you?
Karmapa: What's your relationship with me? It's a relationship between sweet and bitter.
H: No!
Karmapa: Really, there are sweet and bitter as well as spicy.
H: Nothing sweet, I can't see any sweetness. It's all because you are precious. I'm not lovable. I don't want to mention Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche.
Karmapa: Oh, I didn’t say that just now. Don’t you mention it, okay? Well, relax first, change your tone!
H: Yes, I think you are also very clever. I can prove that you have changed a lot in the year you went to the United States, that is, talking and talking.
Karmapa: Wait, wait.
H: If you can communicate, you can't die. Wouldn't it be nice to mature like this?
Karmapa: No.
H: 『I often think that schizophrenia also has mature schizophrenia, and there is naive schizophrenia.』
Karmapa: You, you, you, you, you change the tone, you used to be a harsh tone, now the softer style to say, should I help you?
H: No need, I tell you, this is the real me, and it is not easy for you to anger me like this.
Karmapa: No, then let's change the tone!
H: I don't have any other tone, but you didn't know me before.
Karmapa: No, I mean that the tone implies that you don't have to be so harsh.
H: I am very soft now!
Karmapa: Would you like me to help you?
H: No, no, no, I know what you are doing, but then, it’s
Karmapa: I don't mean that, but you say it yourself!
H: I have nothing to say!
Karmpa: Yes, I know what you think in your heart. I feel it.
H: Then you can help me; I can't feel it myself.
Karmapa: Actually, let's talk about it; you miss me.
H: No! I don't think of you. You don't put the other girls on me the part they're going to play with you.
Karmapa: Say, is there?
H: you and I have no more to say; I don't miss you, I don't have anything to miss you, I want to tell you something.
Karmapa : No, yes, yes, yes.
H: If I had made it clear a year ago, I would have broken up with you.
Karmapa: Wait a minute, wait a minute, if there is love, there will be the enemy
H: You have so many girlfriends; I am not interested in being your girlfriend.
Study abroad and get to know Karmapa
The H revealed that she could reach the Karmapa by the arrangement of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. She studied abroad 11 years ago, and the Buddha Dharma touched her due to Rinpoche's influence. She decided to convert to Rinpoche as a teacher and follow him to learn tantra. Five years after worshipping Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche, Rinpoche hinted to visit the Karmapa. After the first meeting, the Karmapa asked H for Skype in the name of work.
H recalls that she first had a video on Skype with the Karmapa. H saw Karmapa as a distinguished master, while Karmapa complained of his bitterness of being monitored and controlling his actions. Then he turned his words to whether H on the topic of having a boyfriend, H, who has little love experience, is still in shock and has ended her conversation with Karmapa.
Then, between 2013 and 2018, the Karmapa spent most of his time using Skype to maintain a relationship with the H. During the period, H also discusses the relationship between H and Karmapa with Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche.
According to the H, she recorded her Wechat conversation with Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. When Dzongsar Khyentse knew that H had a close relationship with the Karmapa, he began to ask her to help him pass on his religious ideas to the Karmapa or to send her articles in his favor to Karmapa.
However, the H later found that she became more and more like a tool of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. More seriously, it seems that the solemn, serious Rinpoche is a pimp to achieve his purpose, And constantly helps the Karmapa to "seek" female believers.
In addition, the magazine heard the name of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche in the conversation between the Karmapa and the H. The H complained to the Karmapa that she was the victim of Karmapa and Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche, and the Karmapa’s response was to help Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. Here are some translations of the conversation between H and Karmapa.
H: Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche is deliberately trying to change you. He is doing everything he can; he wants to change you ‘Karmapa.’
Karmapa: wait a minute, listen to me first; I said he wants to change me, he wants to be a person in his mind or something, this may be his own thing, but it has nothing to do with me, It was himself (wishful thinking), no, he had his ideas!
Lost herself like a chess piece
The H also experienced countless struggles. When she almost lost herself and almost committed suicide many times, Dzongsar Khyentse kept asking her to stay beside Karmapa. Contrary to the severe solemn attitude of the past, he laughed at H as "insufficient means." H realized that she was only a chess piece of the Dzongsar Khyentse and finally decided to end the relationship with Karmapa.
Before this, the H had sent a message calling Dzongsar Khyentse "pimp," and he answered "Yes" directly. Then she asked Dzongsar Khyentse whether he was still pimping the Karmapa and thought that such a move was shameful, and the Dzongsar Khyentse replied, "ho ho."
This magazine investigates that Karmapa was identified as Karmapa when he was seven years old. He has continued to perform miracles since then, including finding the three-faced horse head Hades who had disappeared in Qinghai Lake for nearly 300 years at the age of 15. In the border guard's eyes, he took two followers who fled to India through the barracks. In addition, Tibetan Buddhists paid particular attention to reincarnation, saying that once a young child is considered a monk or a living Buddha, he will be in a high religious status.
Because H thinks that she is not the only one, she looks forward to telling her own experience so that women who have similar experiences can immediately wake up, bravely stand up to promote Tibetan Buddhist reform and don't let women believers become playthings for the teachers again.
Respond
This magazine is called Stephanie who is the translator of Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche. The other party responded that the allegations of H against Rinpoche were false and the WeChat conversation record may be fake. Rinpoche has all the conversation content to prove. Rinpoche does not know about Karmapa’s private life, there is no personal contact method of the Karmapa, and the relationship between the Karmapa and the H is unclear.
This journal sent another e-mail to Karmapa’s contact email. We didn't receive the response before the deadline. However, in the retreat of the Karmapa, a special instruction was published on the official website on the evening of the 21st, stating that he had only received the vows of novice and the intermediate ordination and had not received the vows of full ordination. He emphasized that the vows of ordination are not just rules or a list of things we are allowed or not allowed to do. More critical is desiring or striving for liberation or having renunciation. This renunciation or longing for emancipation is essential. The Karmapa also mentioned that without his official news recently, there have been various rumors and blame accusations. Still, he believes that the most important thing is that because our minds are not hidden from us, we need to believe in ourselves, and he will continue to work for the sake of Buddhism and sentient beings.
By the time of writing, this journal wanted to contact Karmapa himself as much as possible and approached people through Karmapa, hoping to get a response. Regrettably, due to the retreat of the Karmapa, the Karmapa could not get the Karmapa’s answer before the deadline for the publication.
Original text published by Mirror Weekly 2019.01.24 15:58 https://www.mirrormedia.mg/story/20190123soc001/
The original Jane Huang’s recordings
Mirror Weekly's comments in the article
1.『However, this journal has evidence and cannot confirm that the two had had sex.』
2.『The reporter can not prove that at this stage, it is not possible to indicate the relationship between the two of them. 』
Jane Huang said:
『I often think that schizophrenia also has mature schizophrenia, and there is naive schizophrenia.』
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